Tuesday, July 28, 2009

When will the US start using the Amero? Do you think that this would help the economy?

They are currently printing it in Denver.

When will the US start using the Amero? Do you think that this would help the economy?
Justgoodfolk is the kind of guy who talks a hell of a lot but says absolutely nothing. It states on your profile goodfolk that you are European, if that's true then you should know better than to say a move towards the NAU doesn't exist, considering you come from a now supranational body with a single currency controlled by an abstract and unaccountable "council" that answers to NO ONE and basically elects itself. The European Union started off as a Steel Co-op between France and Germany. They then expanded on it under the radar of the average people and the media using seemingly innocuous "Trade Agreements." And according to the political atmosphere of the continent at this moment, most Europeans HATE the EU. For more info, watch this:





http://www.neithercorp.us/nforum/censore...





Hmm...started off with "Trade Agreements," sounds a bit like NAFTA doesn't it? Btw, I would consider myself a progressive, and I know many Democrats who changed parties so that they could vote for Ron Paul. Playing the


Left / Right dichotomy game is not going to work here, brother. Your Profile also says you are a Socialist. Well, what a surprise that you would try to deny the existence of a plan towards the NAU, considering the people behind it (The Council on Foreign Relations) are all SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS. This is not an issue of "Left" and "Right", this is an issue of Right and Wrong.





Here are some facts about the move towards the NAU:





The SPP calls for expanding the U.S. security perimeter to include the borders of Canada and Mexico. On February 14th of this year the United States and Canada signed a military agreement, a “Bilateral Military Plan” the Civil Assistance Plan. This agreement allows either nation to cross the border to assist in civil acts even if there is no cross border conflict. As with the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America it was done with out any input from the congress, or the citizens of either country.





http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?f...





Texas Department of Transportation has already signed a 50-year agreement with a Spanish company named Cintra to build the Trans-Texas Corridor. In September of 2007, the Bush Administration started a pilot project to allow Mexican trucks to cross the U.S. border without inspections and be free to travel inside the United States. The Senate has also passed the omnibus spending bill that "was clearly written and designed to put the breaks on the current pilot program", according to Senator Byron Dorgan. Yet the Bush Administration, under the leadership of Transportation Secretary Mary Peters, continues the program, now in violation of federal law.





Also, the Kansas City Council loaned $2.5 million to build the inland truck port called KC Smart Port, which would tie in with the TTC.





In an October, 2007 appearance on the Larry King Show on CNN, former Mexican President Fox answered in the affirmative when King asked about the creation of a united currency, though saying the plan would be "long term."





The Amero was first "officially" proposed in 1999 by Canadian economist Herbert G. Grubel. A senior fellow of the conservative Fraser Institute think-tank, he published a book entitled The Case for the Amero in September 1999.





In May of 2007, Canada’s then-Governor of the Bank of Canada, David Dodge, said that, “North America could one day embrace a euro-style single currency,” the Globe and Mail reported. Further, the article stated that, “Some proponents have dubbed the single North American currency the ‘amero’,” and further, “Answering questions from the audience after a speech in Chicago, Mr. Dodge said a single currency was ‘possible’.”





http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?c...





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3jdQxDC7...





In May of 2005, the Independent Task Force on the Future of North America released a document titled, “Building a North American Community.” The report’s recommendations included initiatives to establish;





“a common security perimeter by 2010, develop a North American Border Pass [North American ID card] with biometric identifiers, expand NORAD into a multi-service defense command,” share intelligence, develop Mexico’s energy resources, “harmonize” areas of energy, education, military, foreign policy, immigration, health, expand “temporary” migrant worker programs, and adopt a common external tariff."





On September 12 to 14, 2006, business and government representatives from the three North American countries met in secret, with no media coverage, at the Banff Springs Hotel and convened the North American Forum. Judicial Watch, a U.S. public watchdog group got declassified government documents through a Freedom of Information Act request and made the documents available on their website. These documents reveal the discussions and membership in the secret meetings. In the released documents, under the forum discussion on “Border Infrastructure and Continental Prosperity,” chaired by John Manley, a startling quote was revealed:





“While a vision is appealing, working on the infrastructure might yield more benefit and bring more people on board (‘evolution by stealth’).”





What exactly are they evolving by stealth?





Further more, the Council on Foreign Relations has made it quite clear that they intend to press for North American Integration through their support of the "BUILDING A NORTH AMERICAN COMMUNITY" report. You can read it here:





http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/...





Anyone who denies the existence of a plan for the NAU is either a liar, or an idiot. Some cynics will admit to it, but try to dismiss it as a harmless economic "pow-wow" between the leaders of North America to foster "friendship." I would almost buy that, if I had never read this:





"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England ... (and) ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."


- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton, quote from “Tragedy and Hope”, 1966





"The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."


- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton, quote from “Tragedy and Hope”, 1966
Reply:Without gold or silver to back it, the Amero will be just like the dollar... slowly inflated until it's worthless.





And to those who say the Amero and the NAU aren't going to happen, ask the people in the European countries how much they like living in the EU. Ask them if they thought it was going to happen. Ask them if they had any say-so in the matter.





NAFTA has done us a lot of good, huh? NOT. It's making the rich people in this country a lot of money, while screwing over the average citizen in the U.S., Mexico and Canada.





"Just Good Folk" and a couple of these other answerers are idiots. Just go ahead and sit around with your head in the sand, thinking that this isn't happening... knowing that our president is meeting with the leaders of other countries and signing agreements... without consent from Congress... and with no Congressional oversight.





Many, many Congressmen and women are putting forth bills to prevent erosions of our sovereignty by the SPP and the planned NAU. Why do you think they are doing this?? For the fun of it? They don't have other problems to worry about? I guess not since they are wasting time putting for legislation about a "conspiracy theory".





NAFTA is not a conspiracy theory, is it? How about the trans-texas corridor? Didn't the EU start with trade deals just like NAFTA about 50 years ago?





"Just Good Folk" is from Europe and doesn't know anything about our government, obviously. I guess he's just mad because they didn't stop the madness in Europe and now he has to be part of the EU. We don't want to give up our sovereignty to the SPP, the NAU, or the U.N.





SNOPES!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...





What a reliable source of info that is. I guess when our government decides that I need to give up my job to one of the Mexican's who are pouring over our border I'll just tell them, "Hey, you can't do that... Snopes said this isn't happening!"
Reply:And yet, there are still people in denial. This government is treasonous. Laurie, I had no idea there were that many states opposing this. Thanks for the heads up! I will definitely look into those. It is about time the states started acting on this issue. For those that still have their head in the sand, WAKE UP!
Reply:Hey Bearcat .... give it up on Snopes.com. What an incredible source of disinformation.





Snopes.com still claims that North American integration is a myth when there are some 20 state legislatures now drafting resolutions and bills to oppose it. LOL!!!





Here's a list for your research ... I'm thinking that the official web sites of the state legislatures may be just a slight more credible than snopes.com





Alabama -- SJR68 -- http://alisondb.legislature.state.al.us/...


Arizona -- HCM 2003 -- http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/48leg/2r/bi...


Idaho -- SJM 113 -- http://www3.idaho.gov/oasis/SJM113.html#...


Florida -- S670 -- http://www.flsenate.gov/cgi-bin/view_pag...


Kansas -- H.C.R. 5033 -- http://www.kslegislature.org/bills/2008/...


Missouri -- H.C.R. 17 -- http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bil...


New Hampshire -- HCR12 -- http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislat...


Ohio -- HCR31 -- http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/Resol...


South Dakota -- SCR13 -- http://legis.state.sd.us/sessions/2008/B...


Utah -- HR1 -- http://le.utah.gov/~2008/bills/hbillamd/...


Virginia -- HJ86 -- http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504....


Georgia -- SR124 -- http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2007_...


Hawaii -- SCR96 -- http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessioncur...


Illinois -- HJR29 -- http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext...


Montana -- HJR 25 -- http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2007/billht...


Oklahoma -- SCR10 -- http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/2007-0...


Oregon -- SJM5 -- http://landru.leg.state.or.us/07reg/meas...


Pennsylvania --HR278 -- http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/bill...


South Carolina -- SCR416 - http://www.scstatehouse.net/sess117_2007...


Tennessee -- SJR088 -- http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/bills...


Texas -- HB 3647 -- http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/8...


Washington -- SJM8004 -- http://www.leg.wa.gov/pub/billinfo/2007-...
Reply:Hey, hurry up! I've got a sweet deal on some Ocean Front Property in El Paso I'll sell to you--really cheap!





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http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/...
Reply:The same monkeys who keep hitting the print button


on the dollar machine will be printing the Amero


anyway.
Reply:United or segregated, it would be nice to have a currency with some value.
Reply:Never Happen, we Americans are just too greedy to share our currency with Mexico and Canada.
Reply:No, but maybe we should think about digging that hole to China again........or maybe not.
Reply:Boy are you gullible.





And so are the people who think "resolutions" to oppose a "supposed" problem are some kind of proof - instead of the grandstanding to pander for votes that it is.
Reply:Never.





With every passing year, the politics of the American right wing get more and more fascinating. As it becomes increasingly obvious that the real problems that our nation needs to deal with are those that have progressive solutions, the right wing flails about, searching for a counterbalancing crisis of its own, to justify its extreme ideological beliefs.





Thus, was born the myth of the Amero. Never heard of the Amero? That’s because it doesn’t exist.





Mere reality has never stopped the right wing from getting all frothy-mouthed before, of course, and it’s not stopping them from fretting about the Amero.





Right wing conspiracy theorists say that the government of the United States is engaged in a secret plan with the governments of Canada and Mexico to dissolve American borders and create a single currency that will unite the three countries into a single, giant nation: The North American Union. The new currency of the North American Union, they say, would be called the Amero.





Can the right wingers actually prove that this secret plan to replace the U.S. dollar with the Amero actually exists? Well, no. It’s a secret plan, they say. How could they prove that?





How, indeed, could the claims for such a secret plan be disproved? No one can ever disprove that a well-kept secret exists. Thus, the legend of the Amero continues to be passed along right wing channels of communication in excited whispers, in spite of the lack of any substantial evidence for it.





Supporters of Ron Paul are particularly fond of the legend of the Amero, using it to justify all of Ron Paul’s libertarian ideosyncracies - especially his opposition to worthwhile government projects. National Parks, medals for Rosa Parks, public education and aid to victims of Hurricane Katrina are all part of the conspiracy to the establish the Amero and its North American Union, they whisper.





The nearly-substantial nature of these whispers is exemplified by an article written by Paul Michael, in which he reports, “…some believe the current administration is setting the stage for the introduction of the Amero very soon, as soon as 2010 some believe. The lack of serious intervention on illegal immigration coupled with the continued devaluation of the dollar and its weakness in the world economy is in fact the perfect place to set the foundation for a new currency. Or so IĆ¢€™ve been told by various economists with far more smarts than myself.”





“Some believe” that the Amero will be established by 2010. Who? “Various economists”? Who?





“This is not a phantom organization or conspiracy theory,” Michael continues. “The SPP exists and you can view it yourselves at www.spp.gov.”





Ah, the SPP. The SPP is the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America. It’s a diplomatic initiative that hopes to facilitate international cooperation between the governments of Canada, Mexico and the USA. It’s like neighbors talking to each other on the sidewalk. The SPP has no authority over the governments of any of the three countries. It’s just a mechanism through which meetings and cooperative efforts can be discussed.





To many Ron Paul supporters, such cooperation is regarded as an pathway to one world government, starting with the North American Union and the Amero. But Paul Michael says to look at the web site of the SPP itself, where we will see clear evidence that the Amero will soon strip the USA of its national sovereignty.





So, I took a look at SPP.gov. There’s no mention of any Amero currency at all. Here’s the only mention of currency that I found on the entire site:





“The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.”





We have enough real problems to deal with. Right wing conspiracy theories about imaginary continental, cross-national currencies aren’t what we need our leaders to spend time worrying about.


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